scenotaph 1 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Hi there, i am trying to understand what hardware is most important for a host machine(ofcourse other than a well coded source), is it RAM, CPU, internet connection ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven 29 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 6:09 AM, scenotaph said: Hi there, i am trying to understand what hardware is most important for a host machine(ofcourse other than a well coded source), is it RAM, CPU, internet connection ? Expand Buy a vps to host the server running it off your self connection is just not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenotaph 1 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 6:38 AM, Draven said: Buy a vps to host the server running it off your self connection is just not enough. Expand That sadly doesnt answer my question. But now that you say it, what connection is "average"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven 29 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 6:39 AM, scenotaph said: That sadly doesnt answer my question. But now that you say it, what connection is "average"? Expand Your question is answered you are thinking to hard. you will simply not surpass a stable connection with a medium player base.. i mean there's no other way to put it. If you want players you have to spend money, advertisement is the most expensive so if you cannot put the money in for a vps then don't bother. The internet connection is what players are pinging off of so if your internet is slow then your connection to host will be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenotaph 1 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 7:11 AM, Draven said: Your question is answered you are thinking to hard. you will simply not surpass a stable connection with a medium player base.. i mean there's no other way to put it. If you want players you have to spend money, advertisement is the most expensive so if you cannot put the money in for a vps then don't bother. The internet connection is what players are pinging off of so if your internet is slow then your connection to host will be bad. Expand I need facts, numbers, data. You cant just tell me i cant do it without giving me something to match it up against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiller 409 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 7:52 AM, scenotaph said: I need facts, numbers, data. You cant just tell me i cant do it without giving me something to match it up against. Expand sad to say he's telling the truth. don't be an ass about it when he's telling you how it is. if you want to host something for just you & your friend, your own connection is fine. but if you want it to be stable & run smoothly, a VPS is the way to go. a simple way to put it is, even if you have good internet, it will not compare to a VPS. i don't have noted facts, data, or whatever the fuck you're on about but i can tell you by personal experience. my internet speed is amazing, with 200+ download & 100+ upload & a decent CPU & RAM. but that still will not match up to a VPS . if you want to be a cheap little shit go get a free one, but no i would not recommend you host it off of your own connection. youre welcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenotaph 1 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 8:13 AM, Skaikru said: sad to say he's telling the truth. don't be an ass about it when he's telling you how it is. if you want to host something for just you & your friend, your own connection is fine. but if you want it to be stable & run smoothly, a VPS is the way to go. a simple way to put it is, even if you have good internet, it will not compare to a VPS. i don't have noted facts, data, or whatever the fuck you're on about but i can tell you by personal experience. my internet speed is amazing, with 200+ download & 100+ upload & a decent CPU & RAM. but that still will not match up to a VPS . if you want to be a cheap little shit go get a free one, but no i would not recommend you host it off of your own connection. youre welcome Expand Im sorry, if i acted like an ass, that was not my intention. But you gave me a little bit of information, and i thank you for that. All i want is to understand why a VPS is stronger, why a machine with 16 GB ram, 4x3.50gz CPU, 100/100+ mbit fiber connection isnt just as strong, when i see specifications of VPS's which are worse than those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiller 409 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 8:19 AM, scenotaph said: Im sorry, if i acted like an ass, that was not my intention. But you gave me a little bit of information, and i thank you for that. All i want is to understand why a VPS is stronger, why a machine with 16 GB ram, 4x3.50gz CPU, 100/100+ mbit fiber connection isnt just as strong, when i see specifications of VPS's which are worse than those. Expand i'm not too sure about the logistics but i buy VPS's worse than my actual PC itself. but they host servers better & the overall gameplay feels more smooth whenever it's on a VPS. it's sourcery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenotaph 1 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 8:21 AM, Skaikru said: i'm not too sure about the logistics but i buy VPS's worse than my actual PC itself. but they host servers better & the overall gameplay feels more smooth whenever it's on a VPS. it's sourcery. Expand Alright, thank you for your answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven 29 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 8:22 AM, scenotaph said: Alright, thank you for your answer Expand Your cpu and your ram itself will only benefit you not the other players is what were saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven 29 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 If you are looking to do a project and create a rsps you are going to need a max performance for the players, (good game engine for the server as well) you will need to do commitments and by that i mean you will need to spend money to make money as i already stated the vps isn't the expensive part its the advertising for the server that becomes expensive. If you are looking to just learn and test a product then don't waste the money and port forward and host it local for friends to join id say maybe max of 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenotaph 1 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 9:47 AM, Draven said: If you are looking to do a project and create a rsps you are going to need a max performance for the players, (good game engine for the server as well) you will need to do commitments and by that i mean you will need to spend money to make money as i already stated the vps isn't the expensive part its the advertising for the server that becomes expensive. If you are looking to just learn and test a product then don't waste the money and port forward and host it local for friends to join id say maybe max of 20? Expand I should perhaps have given more information on the thread itself, of what i am thinking of doing. The idea is not to host a server that will be top listed, but just a small community based server, lets say max 40 players(which is more than i would expect). But thats pretty much the "dream", to start off i would just like to simply work on a product and have friends test it. So internet connection is the most important thing when it comes to hosting RSPS, not the hardware of the machine? - If thats so, would a NUC be able to handle it? Now just speaking of old experience(5 years ago atleast) when deltascape got released, i hosted it and my internet at that time which was max 30/30, could handle 30 players without any issues. So i was hoping that my 100/100 fiber could handle, as said before max 40 players on a "average" programmed server. -And again, i would like to apologize if i was acting rude earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven 29 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) On 9/23/2016 at 10:16 AM, scenotaph said: I should perhaps have given more information on the thread itself, of what i am thinking of doing. The idea is not to host a server that will be top listed, but just a small community based server, lets say max 40 players(which is more than i would expect). But thats pretty much the "dream", to start off i would just like to simply work on a product and have friends test it. So internet connection is the most important thing when it comes to hosting RSPS, not the hardware of the machine? - If thats so, would a NUC be able to handle it? Now just speaking of old experience(5 years ago atleast) when deltascape got released, i hosted it and my internet at that time which was max 30/30, could handle 30 players without any issues. So i was hoping that my 100/100 fiber could handle, as said before max 40 players on a "average" programmed server. -And again, i would like to apologize if i was acting rude earlier. Expand You don't have to apologize to me bud, i'm more of a straight forward person, yes you could possibly manage that it would be close, id suggest creating a script to keep a server maintenance such as performance and make it print the band with withdraw but it should host a decent amount, the reason doing it from a pc is hard is maintaining the connection and making sure the server doesn't restart randomly.' Also delta game engine was outdated even at its prime that was back when we had no choices we have lots of decisions and choices now. Edited September 23, 2016 by Draven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenotaph 1 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 10:19 AM, Draven said: You don't have to apologize to me bud, i'm more of a straight forward person, yes you could possibly manage that it would be close, id suggest creating a script to keep a server maintenance such as performance and make it print the band with withdraw but it should host a decent amount, the reason doing it from a pc is hard is maintaining the connection and making sure the server doesn't restart randomly. Expand Good idea! Will look into that, thank you for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven 29 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 10:25 AM, scenotaph said: Good idea! Will look into that, thank you for your help Expand No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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